Legacy Metrics

1912 Winton Model 17-C Seven-Passenger Touring

11825roadUnited States
Engine
Large-displacement multi-cylinder, ~48 bhp
Colour
Two-tone buff and caramel

A 1912 Winton Model 17-C Seven-Passenger Touring car, one of the refined brass-era automobiles favoured by prominent American families of the period. Delivered new to Kilburn Harwood Roby Jr. of Illinois, it was garaged from 1916 to 1950 before being discovered and returning to active use. Subsequent owners including William S. Castle, George Schuetz, and Tom Wall used it extensively on touring events; it was restored during Schuetz's ownership and has covered a cross-country route as recently as 2021.

Ownership

  1. Auction sale
  2. 1912 → 1950Factory delivery
    Kilburn Harwood Roby Jr.
    partial documentation

    Original purchaser, based in Decatur, Illinois, later relocated to Pasadena, California. Stored the vehicle in a garage from 1916 until it was rediscovered around 1950.

  3. 1950 → 1987Private sale
    William S. Castle
    partial documentation

    Enthusiast from Speedway, Indiana, who acquired the car after a friend discovered it in storage. Used it extensively on long-distance tours across the country over 37 years.

  4. 1987 → 1996Private sale
    George Schuetz
    partial documentation

    Had the car restored to its current two-tone color scheme and continued entering it in events during his ownership.

  5. 1996 → 2019Private sale
    Tom Wall
    partial documentation

    Described as a dedicated Winton collector and historian from Wisconsin. Participated in HCCA events and maintained the car meticulously; nicknamed it 'The Mountain Goat' with his wife Donna.

  6. 2019 → 2019Inheritance
    Tom Wall estate
    partial documentation

    Car passed through the estate following Tom Wall's death before being sold to the next owner.

  7. 2019 →Private sale
    Unnamed enthusiast
    none documentation

    Briefly held the car before it was acquired by the current owner; no further detail provided.

  8. Date unknownPrivate sale
    Northern California Winton enthusiast
    partial documentation

    Long-standing Winton owner based in Northern California who completed a cross-country tour with the vehicle from New York to Pebble Beach in 2021.

Competition

  1. 1953Glidden Tour
    Glidden Tour
    Driver: William S. Castle

    One of several long-distance touring events the car participated in during Castle's ownership.

  2. 2021
    New York to Pebble Beach cross-country tour

    Current owner drove the car on a coast-to-coast tour, echoing the historic 1903 Winton transcontinental journey.

  3. Horseless Carriage Club of America
    HCCA touring events
    Driver: Tom Wall

    Car was regularly entered in HCCA events during Tom Wall's ownership from 1996 onward.

Maintenance & restoration

  1. 1987
    Restoration

    Car restored to its present two-tone buff and caramel colour scheme during George Schuetz's ownership.

  2. Modification

    Lighting system converted from original voltage to a 12-volt electrical setup to facilitate touring use.

    Carried out during a prior ownership, exact date unrecorded.

  3. Mechanical

    Recent mechanical sorting including fitting new cylinder jugs and replacement of the transmission shaft; additional original jugs, a new lower block casting, extra engine components, and spare wooden-spoke wheels were also obtained.

    Work undertaken by or for the current owner; exact date not stated.

Are you the owner of this car?

This car's public record is built from its auction and competition history. Register your ownership and privately add your own records to make it a verified Legacy Metrics passport — provenance that backs your car's value at sale and gives your insurer evidence to price against. Roy reviews and verifies every registration personally.

Each chassis record is compiled from public auction archives and links to its source material. Ownership, competition and maintenance entries are extracted from those catalogue listings by an LLM, which can make mistakes — please contact us with any corrections. The summary is Legacy Metrics’ own writing; we do not reproduce catalogue text.

“Full” and “partial” documentation labels indicate how well each entry is corroborated in the underlying sources, not an audit of the car’s physical paperwork. Names of recent or living owners are withheld for privacy.